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Title: "Try Giving Birth To Bawa Within You", Date: September 4, 2002,
Chat Between: Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) and Rumi Smith

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Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of us. 

May God help us all.  My love you (anbu), my dearest brothers and sisters, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).

Text of Spiritual Chat 24

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate.  Al-salam 'alaykum,  my dearest loving sister Rumi.  My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). 

Do you have time for a little wisdom exchange?

RumiSmith786:

Wa alaikum al-salam, dear Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen. Yes we certainly do. Good to hear from you.

MuhaiyaddeenLB: We got the most wonderful gift today from Bawa.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

When we changed the month on our Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship Calendar today, from August 1991 to September 1991, we received the following quote from Bawa, from a Discourse given by Bawa on June 6th, 1986, just 7 months before He died, and the quote starts with,

          "Allah is sufficient."

RumiSmith786:

Yes? Can you please share it? We were just printing out Spiritual Chat 20: "Learn to
Stick to Bawa
Within You".

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Wonderful. 

The Gift continued as follows:

          "Allah is sufficient!"

          "May He protect you, may He protect His house, His Fellowship.
          The house called the Fellowship belongs to Him. 
          You are His servants in His house."

          "Carefully sow the seeds of wisdom to receive His grace.
          Make His rahmat grow and tend it carefully with your good qualities,
          your wisdom, prayers and devotion."

          "When the crop ripens, you will harvest God's grace,
          His divine-awakened wisdom, His treasures,
          His qualities, and His full blessings."

          "If you forsake this duty and lose your wisdom,
          you will lose this precious harvest."

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Then all afternoon Bawa has been explaining this gift to this child. 

First, everything that we have been sharing since Januaray all comes down to the opening sentence,

          "Allah is sufficient."

If you accept this, then everything else of God grows out of this.

Then, "He protects you", as His life, as His soul, as His wisdom or consciousness, as His child of grace, He protects you as His Disciple, as the awakened soul, as your Shaikh within you, as the Guardian of the soul, and as God within your Shaikh, as the Creator of the soul, as the - Disciple, Shaikh, and God - as the Triple Flame of God within the Triple Flame of God.

And He protects you as His body, as His place, as His story, as His Qur'an, as His palace of the soul, or alif, lam, meem, the Triple Flame of God within you, becoming in maturity Ya Allah, Ya Rasul, Ya Muhaiyaddeen, revealing in this way the Triple Flame of God within the Triple Flame of God within you, which is the understanding of the Triple Flame of God within you.

And then from out of your Shaikh as His soul and you as the palace of His soul, He reveal Himself as the truth within your wisdom, which in maturity is True Man within the Creation of God within you, and God within the Creation of True Man within you, revealing in this way, the Oneness of God and True Man within you, of God within Man and of Man within God within you, which is the understanding of God and True Man within you, which in truth is God within you.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

In this way, He transforms your Shaikh into His soul within you and you into the palace of the soul within you, which is the House of wisdom within us, the House of
Qutb Muhaiyaddeen Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani
(may God be please with Him), which is
Chapter 1
-"The Shepherd And The Tree", and Chapter 2 - "A Wondrous City" in the book "A Mystical Journey". 

In this way,

          "The house called the Fellowship belongs to Him, and You are the servants
          in His House"

This is also described beautifully in the discourse given by His Holiness on 4/2672  given the title, "How To Merge With The Guru."  Click HERE to read an on-line version of this discourse.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

And,

          "Carefully sow the seeds of wisdom to receive His grace",

Is what automatically comes out of your relationship with your Shaikh, with Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both "outside" of you and within you.

A relationship, which when established, allows our the wisdom within us to sow the seeds of wisdom within us, allows our Shaikh within us to,

          "Plant the seed of Allahu within us with absolute faith and wisdom, nourishing it
          with iman, with absolute faith, certitude, and determination in God, pouring the
          water of the Kalimah as His prayer: 'La illaha ill Allahu, Muhammadur
          Rasulullah."

In order to grow the "Tree of God's Grace" within us.

For the rest of this beautiful quote from His Holiness, see Golden Words Number 872, "The Taproot for Man's Life", page 394 in the book, "Golden Words of a Sufi Shaikh". 

Also see Chapter 21, in "The Pearl of Wisdom", on page 72, "The Six Faces", where Bawa teaches us the may roles of wisdom within us, of the Shaikh within us, of the 6 wisdoms within us, one of which is to,

" .. and like the season of spring, spout the six kinds of wisdom."

Which is to give birth to Himself within us, if that truly be our intention, and in this way, like with an apple seed that germinates revealing the apple tree within it, He destroys "us", destroys the "Seed of Him" within us, which in truth is "us" within Him, and reveal Himself within us, reveals the "Tree of Him" within us, which in truth is "us" having moved forward on the Path of God within Him.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

And all of this brings us back to the same wisdom point, to doing what we have been talking about since we began to Chat last January, about using the "Wisdom Process" that God has placed within us, to move our life forward in this way, in partnership with our wisdom, in partnership with our Shaikh within us, and with God within Him, which is the process of,

          "See it, experience it, try to understand it, as best you can, and then, hand it to
          the wisdom within you, to your Shaikh within you, so in partnership with God
          within Him, He can extract the wisdom points from what has come before you,
          and then hand it back to you.  And then explain it in detail to you and join with
          you to share it with everyone else."

For this child, this is what His Holiness meant by,

          "Make His rahmat grow and tend it carefully with your good qualities, your
          wisdom, prayers, and devotion."

And for this child, this is why we have been chatting, why the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen On-line Library was established, and why all of these Spiritual Letters, and why all of these Spiritual Chats have been sent to our brothers and sister from this child, in partnership with our Shaikh, with our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with each of Us).  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

And finally,

          "When the crop ripens, you will harvest God's grace, His divine-awakened
          wisdom, His treasures, His qualities, and His full blessings."

Which is what is now growing within us, within each of  us, through this partnership between us and our Shaikh within us, whether we know it or not, whether we like it or not, whether we want it or not.  It doesn't matter, because now it is the birthright and heritage of all of us living in this age, because that is the way God works.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

This is what has happened now to all of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and the name of this gift of God, of this,

          "Harvest of God's grace, His divine-awakened wisdom, His treasures, His
          qualities, and His full blessings",

The name of this gift of God for this age is "Bawa" or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" or "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him), within us, within each of us living in this age.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

This is what has happened now to all of Bawa's Children, they have given birth to Bawa within them, at least that is now the opportunity available to all of  them, to everyone living in the world today, because now they can, if they truly want to.

Like in the beautiful quote that you sent to Louie on July 20, 2002,

          "The father of wisdom will give birth to you and raise you within that wisdom.
          Then you have to give birth to that Father.
          Have that baby within your heart and rock him."

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

This is the significance of the 16th year after the death of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), on December 8th, 1986, which is the birth of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within each of His Children, in 2002,
or when
they realize and awaken to this reality of their own life, understand it, accept it, and join with it, before they die, or before Bawa leaves the world again, in the year 2086.

[Note: for more on the timing of all this, please see Spiritual Letter 26  - "The Three Testaments of God", and Spiritual Letter 27 - "The Three Judgments by God", which proposes that the age of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) is 200 years long, from 1886, when His Holiness first came into the world, until 2086, when He finally leaves the world for good, returning to heaven within us.   

Also, please see Spiritual Discourse 03, "The Final Judgment by God of the Creation of God", for a short discourse by Bawa, given to us on May 12, 1986, about Bawa's journey back to heaven within us, and if that be truly our intention within Him, about Him taking us with Him.

Which means that the world, and everyone living in it, which is all of us, have only another 84 years to get it right, to realize, understand, accept, and join with the gift of God for this age, which God has personally and ever so lovingly placed within everyone living in this age, which is the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him), and which has now come to maturity within us, 16 years after the death of Bawa, with the birth of Bawa within the hearts of all of His Children, which again is all of us living in the world.  What more can God do for us?]

This is now our life, we again have become the ocean of God's grace within us, from which we have all come, like the rain falling back into the ocean, from which it came, again becomes the ocean, no longer the rain.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

All we have to do now is realize it, understand it, accept it, and join with it, and start swimming in the ocean of God's grace within us, the ocean of 'ilm or divine knowledge within us, and in this way, again become One with God and True Man within us, revealing in this way, the Oneness of God and True Man within us, which in truth is God within us.

Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen.  Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

May we all do this, my dearest loving sister Rumi.

RumiSmith786:

Al-hamdu lillah, Allahu Akbar. What a wonder is this beautiful life.

RumiSmith786:

What a grace and gift God gave us, in sending our beloved Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him).

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.  Indeed, my dearest loving sister Rumi, this quote came as an affirmation of the life of this child, of what this child has been experiencing for the last 27 years, trying to live at the feet of His Holiness, of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). 

It says it all, for all of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with each of Us).

RumiSmith786:

Yes, truly, it says it all.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

It explains the "what", "where", "how", and "why" of our life. 

It explains "what is happening" in our life, as "God is happening" within our wisdom within our life, by first causing "True Man to happen" within our life, within the Creation of God within us, by first allowing "our Shaikh to happen" within our life, as our wisdom within our falsehood, by first allowing, "us to end" within our life, allowing the "Shadow of the Shaikh" within us to disappear back into the Shaikh within us, the "Shadow of the Shaikh" within us which is our current life of "separation and differences" that we are living with our brothers and sisters in the world  that we see in our ignorance as existing "outside" of us, the "Shadow of the Shaikh" within us that in truth is God in
anathi
within us.

And all of this is happening within us because God loves us, because in truth we are all One, One within the other as One, One revealing the other within it, One hiding oneself within the other as One reveals the other within it, as an apple seed and apple tree are one, one within the other as one, one hiding itself within the other as one reveals the other within it.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

It explains "where it is happening" in our life, it is happening within us, and within our Shaikh, and within God within our Shaikh, and in this way it is happening to the Triple Flame of God within the Triple Flame of God within us, to the - Disciple, Shaikh, and God - within the Triple Flame of God within us, within - Ya Allah, Ya Rasul, Ya Muhaiyaddeen within us.  What a wonder is this God of  ours and how He reveals Himself to us, and to Himself within us.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

It explains "who it is happening to" in our life, it is happening to the One within us, by us putting down the idea of "us" as "separate from" God, as "separate from" each other, and as "separate from" the Creation of God within us, to the One within what God has personally and ever so lovingly placed within each of us, the One within the everything, before we came to this school, to this earth world, this dunya, to first experience the sifat or form of the dunya, of the everything.

Then to harvest the sirr or secret of the dunya out of the sifat or form of the dunya, revealing the 7 heavens within the 7 hells within us, as the Nur Muhammad within the
Nur Muhammad
within us, as our Shaikh within our Shaikh within us, which is the understanding of the Nur Muhammad, of our Shaikh within us.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

And then to harvest akhirah, the kingdom of God within us, firdaus, the hereafter, out of the sirr or Secret world of Allah within us, that is within the 18,000 universes or sifat or form of the dunya within us, as Allah Muhammad within Allah Muhammad, as True Man within True Man, which is the understanding of Allah Muhammad, of True Man within us, which is the seed of Islam, the seed of God within us.  Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.

RumiSmith786:

Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, we are sitting here, nearly fainting, because we can't contain the beauty of what you are saying.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Me too!  That is how this child has been all day, fainting with his love for Bawa, for God within Him, and for all of my brothers and sisters in the heart of our Shaikh, within the heart of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him), the gift of God for this age, the life and teaching of God for this age, for this age of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). 

But remember the last part of that quote.

          "If you forsake this duty, and lose your wisdom, you will lose this precious
          harvest." 

We must understand clearly what this means, how we lose our wisdom, and lose this precious harvest.  This is almost more important that the first part of the quote, because if we are not clear about what we can do "wrong" on the path of wisdom, then
we stop God
from doing what is "right" on the path of wisdom  within us, from finishing what He has started within us, within each of us living in this age, this age of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), which is to reveal True Man within the Creation of God within us, and God within the Creation of True Man within us.  That is how we forsake this duty.

RumiSmith786:

Please tell me more about getting clear, about what we can do "wrong" on the path of wisdom.  That seems to be my "downfall".

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Yes. This is where the clarity within our wisdom is so very important, because most will fail to benefit from ignorance, and especially from their "arrogance about their ignorance", thinking that what they are doing is right, to get to God, to obtain wisdom, to develop the qualities and actions of God, while it truth it isn't. 

Like all of the people describes by Bawa in the "10 Mystical Journeys" who are trying to climb out of hell, only to continuously slip back into hell.  We must know what they are doing wrong, how their effort is misdirected, and will not bring about the desired result, which it to join with God, which is to reach the 7 heavens within us, which is to open the 8th heaven within the 7 heavens, which is to become a "mu'min", a true believer, one of true iman, or absolute faith, certitude, and determination.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Bawa teaches us that the only way to climb out of the hell within us is through iman, through our absolute, complete, and unshakable faith, certitude, and determination that God alone exists; the complete acceptance of the heart that "God is One".

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Not through any effort of our own, but through the grace of God, which can only flow into our life through our direct and continuous connection to our Shaikh, not through anything that we do, "separate from" our Shaikh.

In this way, Bawa tells us that the only people who climbed out of hell, in His mystical journey, was those with this iman, and with wisdom, with a direct connection to their Shaikh and God within Him, who put their foot out to the wall of hell, where no foot hold existed, with the faith and trust that God, when their foot reached the wall of hell, would make a foot hold for them, and that in truth it was their Shaikh and God within Him, not them, who was climbing out of hell, to complete God's intention within them.

That is the path of faith and wisdom within us, to step out trusting in your Shaikh and God within Him, and in what your Shaikh and God within Him are doing within you, not trusting in "you", as "separate from" your Shaikh or God within Him, not trusting in what you see, or hear, or smell, or taste, or know, or understand, or are experiencing "separate from" your Shaikh and God within Him. 

That is why Bawa tells us,

          "I am going back to heaven, so get behind Me, and when I go, I will take you with
          Me."

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

So this is our work, and our work alone, to trust in God, and what God has given us for this age, in order to walk out of hell, and what God has given us is the life and teaching of God for this age, which is the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him).

The life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), that God has personally and ever so lovingly placed both "outside" us in the world, as what we call Bawa and His teachings, as our "outer" Wisdom and Qur'an, which left the "outside" of us on December 8th, 1986, and also within us, as our "inner" Wisdom and Qur'an, which will never leave us, but which we must believe in, trust, nourish, understand, accept, and join with before we die, if we are not to

          "Forsake this duty, and lose your wisdom, and lose this precious harvest."

RumiSmith786:

May God help us to not drop this precious gift.
Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, Al-hamdu lillah, for this beautiful sharing. Allahu Akbar.

10 o'clock is cut off time for our AOL use, it is Rodgers turn.
We certainly got satiated with grace and wisdom. Al-hamdu lillah.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

The dropping is all our doing, not God's.  He has given us both ways to live, as "separate from" Him, and as "One with" Him.  The choice is ours.  Just like the last time we talked about the  "rabbit staying in its rabbit hole". 

(Note: this reference to the "rabbit staying in its rabbit hole" refers to the Spiritual Chat between Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) and Rumi Smith, that occurred on August 28, 2002, and was given the title, "Learning To Disengage From Our Brothers & Sisters", and can be accessed as "Spiritual Chat 22", by clicking HERE.)

It is the rabbit who makes that choice, not God. In this way, the choice is always ours, to stay within the heart of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen within us (may God be pleased with Him) waiting for Him to feed us, or to join with our brothers and sisters in the world to talk about wisdom, thinking that we have been nourished. 

The choice is ours.  Do you understand my dearest loving sister Rumi?

RumiSmith786:

Yes, we do understand. What a grace. What a wonder. Al-hamdu lillah, Allahu akbar.

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Remember what  Bawa teaches us about the value of joining with our brothers and sister to talk about wisdom, rather than joining with our Shaikh within us to,

          "Act upon the truth within us",

To join with our wisdom within us, with our Shaikh within us, to bring the "wisdom of truth within us into the actions of truth within us",

For as Bawa teaches us in beautiful children's book, "Come To The Secret Garden", and also as the quotation of the month for the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship Calendar, for July 1991:

          "My grandchildren, the right path is truth, the wisdom of truth. 
          This is not something that we can just talk about,
          we must bring it into action."

          "Talking about something is one thing, but doing it is another. 
          You have to act upon the truth. 
          Nothing will happen just from talking,
          whether the words come from you or from a man of wisdom."

          "In the same way that the ink from your pen sticks to a piece of paper,
          your actions must stick to your words.
          It is easy to talk about wisdom,
          But you have to hold on and stick to it."

          "Learn only that which can never be erased. 
          Do not bother to learn anything that can be erased. 
          That kind of learning is like writing on water. 
          You write, but a second later, it disappears,
          and there is no way of knowing what was written. 
          You will never be able to benefit from that kind of learning,
          and neither will anyone else."

          "Think about this.
          What you learn must be firmly established and printed in a way that will stick.
          Only if you stay with the Shaikh will you be able to do this."

MuhaiyaddeenLB:

Al-hamdu lillah.  Allahu Akbar.  May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us.  May God help us all. 

My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler).

RumiSmith786: Anbu, Rumi


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